# Black pane with red dots at start of Initial Processing, when a State Plane coordinate system is selected

**URL:** https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314
**Category:** PIX4Dmapper Questions/Troubleshooting
**Created:** [October 4, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314 "2018-10-04T14:03:21Z")
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### Author: ![John\_Githens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@John\_Githens](https://community.pix4d.com/u/John_Githens)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314/1 "2018-10-04T14:03:21Z")

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Hello,

I have had success with several Projects after selecting ‘WGS 84 (EGM96 geoid)’ as the Coordinate System (using **Image Properties Editor, Image Geolocation** ), and using&nbsp; **Cordinate System Definition&nbsp;** to&nbsp;select the **Datum** as ‘North American Datum (1983)’, followed by&nbsp;‘NAD 1983 StatePlane Washington North FIPS 4601 Feet’. The map tiles appear in **Map View,&nbsp;** and processing is successful.

However, if I&nbsp;use the&nbsp; **Image Properties Editor** to change the&nbsp;Coordinate System to 'NAD 1983 StatePlane Washington North FIPS 4601 Feet’, the pane in Map View is black with two concentric red dots in the center. Over time the circles become green (see attachment). I have not had success with projects when the black pane was presented during Initial Processing.

There is probably something basic in my Pix4D settings that I need to adjust. Suggestions?

Thank you.

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### Author: ![Holden\_Greene](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/pix4d/user_avatar/community.pix4d.com/holden_greene/32/425_2.png) [@Holden\_Greene](https://community.pix4d.com/u/Holden_Greene)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314/2 "2018-10-08T18:06:00Z")

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Hi John. Im&nbsp;not sure what your intended workflow is. I will provide you with an overview of the three main coordinate systems used in Pix4D to see if that helps clarify the issue. You should not be changing the image coordinate system in most cases. This is likely the reason that you are having issues. The 3 coordinate&nbsp;systems are the following.

**Image Coordinate System:** This is the coordinate system in which your images were acquired in. Your drone is equipped with a GPS system. Whenever your drone takes a photo, it writes positional information to the metadata of your image (.tif&nbsp;or .jpg). This positional information is known as a geotag. Geotags are acquired and marked in the coordinate system in which your drone’s positional system operates on. Most drones geotag their images in WGS 84. Your image’s geoinformation is retrieved and extracted from the EXIF data after you import our images into Pix4D. It is best practice to never change your image coordinate system.&nbsp;

&nbsp; **Output&nbsp;Coordinate System** : Your output coordinate system is selected when you initially set up your project. This is the coordinate system in which all of your output files and products will be in. You can learn more about changing your output coordinate system by reading&nbsp;[HERE](https://support.pix4d.com/hc/en-us/articles/202560029-How-to-select-change-the-Image-GCP-Output-Coordinate-System). Your output coordinate system can be different than your image and GCP coordinate system, Pix4D will go through and complete the appropriate transformations.&nbsp;

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**GCP Coordinate System:** This is the coordinate system in which your ground control points (GCPs) were acquired in. You select this coordinate system when you import your ground control points in the GCP manager. You can change the coordinate&nbsp;system of your ground control points in the GCP management window. To learn more about the GCP management widow, please read&nbsp;[HERE](https://support.pix4d.com/hc/en-us/articles/202560039-How-to-add-import-GCPs-in-the-GCP-MTP-Manager)&nbsp;Remember, your GCP coordinate system is the coordinate system in which these points were acquired in, this can be different and separate from your image and output coordinate system.&nbsp;

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If you change the output coordinate&nbsp;system after completing a step, you do not need to reprocess step 1. You should re-optimize after selecting a new output system and this will remove the results from steps 2 and 3. You can then just process those steps depending on the needs of your project.

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Alternatively, you could take the outputs from Pix4D and import them into some GIS software like&nbsp; ArcMap&nbsp;or QGIS and reproject to your desired coordinate system. You can read more about that procedure for QGIS at the link&nbsp;[HERE](https://docs.qgis.org/2.18/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html).

After reviewing this info feel free to ask for clarification.&nbsp;

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### Author: ![John\_Githens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@John\_Githens](https://community.pix4d.com/u/John_Githens)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314/3 "2018-10-13T14:50:12Z")

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Thanks Holden. I do appreciate the time that you took to offer your suggestions and the reference to QGIS information.

Please see my ‘pending approval’ post for details about my attempted workflows:

[https://community.pix4d.com/t/7365-Avoiding-problems-with-incorrect-Orthomosaic-elevations-using-feet-instead-of-meters-using-State-Plane-or-seeing-a-Black-pane-with-red-dots-during-processing](https://community.pix4d.com/t/7365-Avoiding-problems-with-incorrect-Orthomosaic-elevations-using-feet-instead-of-meters-using-State-Plane-or-seeing-a-Black-pane-with-red-dots-during-processing)&nbsp;

There are more subjects included in the above post-link than in my original post, Oct.4 on this page.&nbsp;

If…&nbsp; it is currently not possible to produce the results that I would like to have **within Pix4D** , it would be great to have that confirmed. The current Pix4D user interface design _implies_ that my objectives can be met within Pix4D, rather than through import to other GIS software.

I have submitted a support request, referencing the above pending post, and providing the requested Project files.

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### Author: ![Daniel\_Rico\_Cordero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/pix4d/user_avatar/community.pix4d.com/daniel_rico_cordero/32/187_2.png) [@Daniel\_Rico\_Cordero](https://community.pix4d.com/u/Daniel_Rico_Cordero)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2018, 9:09am UTC](https://community.pix4d.com/t/black-pane-with-red-dots-at-start-of-initial-processing-when-a-state-plane-coordinate-system-is-selected/7314/4 "2018-10-17T09:09:24Z")

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Hi John,

I gave an answer to your request at:&nbsp;

[https://community.pix4d.com/t/7365-Avoiding-problems-with-incorrect-Orthomosaic-elevations-using-feet-instead-of-meters-using-State-Plane-or-seeing-a-Black-pane-with-red-dots-during-processing](https://community.pix4d.com/t/7365-Avoiding-problems-with-incorrect-Orthomosaic-elevations-using-feet-instead-of-meters-using-State-Plane-or-seeing-a-Black-pane-with-red-dots-during-processing)&nbsp;

Regards.

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